Worthy Podcasts #18 - The Return of the Modern Philosopher
- Murali Thondebhavi
- May 31
- 2 min read
If you’re a podcast junkie like me, you know that some episodes are just events. Chris Williamson’s recent conversation with Naval Ravikant is exactly that—a rare, long-form interview with the man who’s been called the “philosopher king of Silicon Valley.” Naval hasn’t done a podcast in years, so this one is a real treat.

First things first: If you haven’t already, watch the full episode here. It’s long, but trust me, it’s worth every minute.
Why is this episode special?
Naval is famously selective about interviews, and he’s spent the last few years mostly off the grid. So when he sits down for a deep, honest chat, you know you’re in for something different. Chris Williamson does a fantastic job of letting Naval’s ideas breathe, and the result is a conversation that feels both intimate and profound.
A few key takeaways:
Happiness is a skill: Naval doubles down on his belief that happiness isn’t something you stumble into—it’s something you practice. He talks about the importance of self-awareness, meditation, and even boredom as tools for cultivating a peaceful mind.
Wealth vs. Money: Naval’s classic distinction between being rich and being wealthy comes up again, but with new nuance. He explains why true wealth is about freedom—freedom of time, freedom of thought, and freedom from the opinions of others.
The power of reading: Naval shares his approach to reading (hint: he’s a fan of re-reading the best books rather than chasing the latest releases) and how it shapes his worldview.
AI, technology, and the future: Of course, they touch on AI and the rapid changes in tech. Naval’s take? Stay curious, keep learning, and don’t get too attached to any one identity or career path.
Relationships and meaning: In a world obsessed with hustle, Naval reminds us that the quality of our relationships is what really matters. He’s candid about his own journey, the mistakes he’s made, and what he’s learned about love and connection.
Final thoughts
This episode is a goldmine for anyone interested in philosophy, entrepreneurship, or just living a good life. Naval’s wisdom is as relevant as ever, and Chris’s thoughtful questions make it feel like you’re eavesdropping on two friends having the world’s most interesting coffee chat.
If you listen to one podcast this week, apart from our Luminary Lounge episodes ;), make it this one. And if you have thoughts or favorite moments, drop them in the comments.
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